Episode 13: Chasing The Boogeyman Part I - Son of Sam/Transcript

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welcome to the last podcast on the left

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episode 14 on episode 13 I should have

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said that we're skipping over 13 because

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I'm here with Marcus Parks I am Ben

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Kissel with the scientists the professor

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the master of all that is horror and

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gruesome Hong Kong Henry Zebrowski

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handwritten on her to me I got rice in

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my shoes

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hey those are better than mine what are

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you getting your shoes I've got sushi

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shoes ladies and gentlemen it's not good

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that should be sushi flip-flops I know

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every year dhoom smells like tuna and

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avocado nobody likes it everybody hates

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me I thought that was just your shirts

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well you never know what I'm wearing

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you've been wearing that Suspiria shirt

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for about seven days now are you scared

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yet cuz you should be it's a bit stinky

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number 13 unlucky number speed of

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unlucky holy Lord the victims of this

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Son of Sam character ladies and

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gentlemen weren't barking in a new a

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journey we're going to be calling

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chasing the boogeyman what we're looking

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for is true New York boogeyman that have

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existed even in the past or exist right

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now or will exist in the future such as

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right bends children my children that's

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what I'm not going to have the Mehran I

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do have them immediately in cuffs right

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at birth you cuff him up officer hey

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officer B no I know where that cats

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gonna be doing preemptive strike yes

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what I would call it with your children

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you better buckle up Tiffany Kissel

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Tiffany Kissel is gonna be a real crazy

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kook job everybody if any Kissel's him

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that's a rough name it's a real rough

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name and she's a rough gal hey is that

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her bosoms no that's her back can't tell

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the difference she's had some weight

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issues dead let me see your face I don't

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have a phrase well that's what happens

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when someone puts a skillet to it when

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they're three years old you know God

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knows I needed to make my bacon you're a

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monster

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hello speedo monsters got Son of Sam on

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the docket Son of Sam was a true New

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York boogey man in the year of 1976 he

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held New York in a series of didn't got

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seizure of terror seizure of terror

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seizure each other literally July 2 July

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I believe it's a solid

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round number one and during that summer

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basically the whole city was put on

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lockdown there was a gigantic curfew and

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it became believe over time that he was

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targeting women with long brown hair

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right um so everything you find later on

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it was all completely not since he just

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made all that up it was all completely

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random well it was completely random but

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you know then again I think that he did

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pioneer a certain hairstyle that he

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should get credit for if Jennifer

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Aniston is getting credit for the

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Jennifer why isn't uh you know raise him

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right is that it was it the Rachel yeah

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it's the Rachel right after a character

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and so wise ins on the Sam getting

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credited for the princess Leah look it's

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very obvious the Prince alia was just

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terrified of the sunset I'm also going

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to put a grand coincidence card out

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there and say that Wow he waited lady's

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agility you don't get her for like six

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months bro man but this is the big thing

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princess leah was a movie took place on

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Tatooine in a galaxy long ago and far

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far away and while it was the same

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summer that Star Wars was released that

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movie was shot long maybe wasn't I

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played my card wrong you played the

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wrong card

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fuck you freedom bad so we went to kill

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number four and five we took a journey

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as we like to do so much and we went to

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Forest Hills so what are the two names

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of four and five the two names are

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Christine Freund Lincolnton blind and

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German for Freund right and Virginia

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Bhaskar each Ian ah that's fine that's

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it that's just your normal name so we

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went on our journey to Forest Hills we

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took the watch every day we take the we

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took the F train to the 71st Street

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Forest Hills stop by fuck middle of

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Queens you know but F middle of Queens

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God knows and we get off the subway

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station and it's very nice it's a

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metropolis type area there's a big arena

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you know which we can imagine it's

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probably uh you were very enamored with

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the pizzeria who know Johnny Rockets

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John Rocker there which was closed yet

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because nobody goes to Johnny rocket was

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also partially due to your attitude

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about Johnny Rock yes I always said that

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I have a power to do such things like I

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closed a bar in the East Village

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uh in Italian places well called sento

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set I've

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boycotted because they kicked me out I

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brought in my own coffee and I was like

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you know I'm having pizza right it's not

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coffee shop yeah so I put a curse on

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that place wouldn't you believe it

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two weeks later closed down and double

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whammy

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it was Mars favorite restaurant boo boo

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boyfriend win girl fight was your

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girlfriend's favorite restaurant and you

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got kicked out of there I didn't get

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kicked out of there I walked out on my

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own volition because I'm not throwing

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out a $3 thing a cappuccino from

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Starbucks your serial killer

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aren't you well Alan and I would say

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some ass and probably drink a lot of

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coffee all of these things happen

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tonight he's just such an interesting

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figure we're talking about how sort of

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Sam became a characters like there's a

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lot of serial killers that like to make

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things very personal like John Wayne

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Gacy was very personal Richard Ramirez

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is very personal Jeffrey Dahmer very

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personal killings was about sex it was

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about it did sort of taking control over

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a situation that they felt out of it you

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know and like you're Jeffrey Dahmer's

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they would collect body parts from their

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victims I mean Jeffrey went as far as to

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eat them so they would become him

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because God knows everybody wants to

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become a 13 year old Filipino boy yeah

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me to be able to kill the president but

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like I'm not a president now no you're

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not but mm-hmm

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you're powerful yeah I make spring rolls

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of my dreams okay um eating that kind of

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race but Son of Sam was trying to make a

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name for himself you trying to be a

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movie star lady today are our first

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celebrity killer given the tabloid era

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of the 1970s yeah you look at it's like

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him and you Jack the Ripper Zodiac

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killer uh BTK was very similar to these

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are like nobodies and New York he's got

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such a special breeding ground for that

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and the fact that there's millions of

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people here it's very easy to just go

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completely anonymous right you know

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you're just a number

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the irony of being around millions of

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people is that nobody sees you yeah well

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yeah I think is so bizarre because if

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you're in a small town of 200 oh I think

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Hank was at the store at 9:30 he usually

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goes at 9:28 what's going on in his

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relationship he's a serial killer better

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find out you know they have a stakeout

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every 13-year old boy

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gathers their bicycles and gets their

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lighters ready in their cigars and they

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go they stake out Hanks out

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cos God knows what's going on over there

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small-town life is weird it's different

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so yet Burke was sort of able to

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ironically hide under the guise of uh

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you know the large population and he was

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very common looking fellow he actually

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was about the exact same size of Henry

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Zebrowski yeah the perfect size he was

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the size of a human being yeah yeah he

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was definitely one size yeah he was just

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like one day like it's not going to help

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him as far as us well I mean then again

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if he was six foot seven he could never

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pulled out what he did it would be like

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if I tried to kill somebody be like I

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think the guy was six foot seven like

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let's go through the database we got Ben

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Kissel David Lee and I'm already stopped

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there's that tree over there

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great castle every time you talk about

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your size there's such sadness in your

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eyes because you know you're never going

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to be a killer you know you can't you

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can't kill and just not average enough

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that sucks which is why I love the other

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way he's able to blend in with society

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and his major goal is fame and we were

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kind of joking about earlier if he was

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in the reality TV era he would be Snooki

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or the situation or Vinny or yeah one of

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those Desperate Housewives on of New

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Jersey it weren't able to have a reality

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show they would probably be a serial

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killer yeah what yeah cuz it's just that

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same sort of it's that flaw I think this

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is the same flaw that exists in

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politicians is this a mother exists in

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us we're entertaining why are we doing

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this uh cue man dude dude I'm doing man

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I'm good I'm not gonna kill anybody man

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that's the thing I have a delusion in my

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mind that I am giving the world

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something right now it's true to really

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feel like people should be grateful that

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I'm speaking to them and why and pay us

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for it

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and give us money to do it yeah what is

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good about it let us entertain you for

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money we've done nothing to deserve this

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other than be tormented and dis Batphone

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update we grew up that that's all we

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need man the end but this is this

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breeding ground for serial killers since

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this type of you feel you don't feel

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validated with your life bro you want to

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go out there and put your hate on

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everybody and you know going back to

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what do like Dahmer was collecting

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skulls and you know BTK collecting hair

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samples he collected his newspaper

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articles and he was on the front page

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just countless times in this year figure

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in a 365 day year he probably was on the

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front page 50 60 70 times and when

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you're taunting the police you're just

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asking for attention and that that's

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what he was doing and then when they

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call

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ham there's a whole story of like in the

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end when they finally caught him when

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they tracked him down

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he was like through series of like

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parking tickets like is always fuckin is

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it's always yeah

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and then he he was like oh you got me

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what took you so long

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and he just made it super bombastic and

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he made up the story about the dog

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talking to him that was all complete

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bullshit and now he's also one of all

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the serial killers we talked about he

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the only ones still alive they don't

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know death penalty here yeah he's alive

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and he's in jail and he's an evangelist

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he do you found Jesus Christ and he's

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doing all that I want to write him a

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letter we will well I want to get him to

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draw a picture of puppies for us I think

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it'll be a beautiful and Getty like

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picture if you could just make a puppy

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instead of a sunflower be the happiest

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must remind wouldn't throw up throw up

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right yes I love it

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but speaking of chasing like the cops

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chased him we we went our ways of Forest

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Hills and this is the documentation of

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that event I will say this these four

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and five killings ones we're going to

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discover we're big in the case you're

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the ones that deemed Kim the 44 caliber

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killer because this is when the cops

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first put it together this right I'll be

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the same fella he loved that 44 caliber

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pistol I will say two gigantic gun it's

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like a it's like a gun from the Old West

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is that what it is you know a lot about

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guns I do how big is that gunshot it's a

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big fucking guts 44 Magnum and what a

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hole does that put into something you

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think if you were let's let's say we're

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looking at a normal sized squash how

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much damage we're doing to that set

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squash that squash is gonna be exploded

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squash time squashed

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so these people didn't look too hot

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afterwards they probably look pretty bad

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were they

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what sort of wounds did he do did he do

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head shots head shots yeah well he

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attended to do all head shots God knows

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it's not an easy shot

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that's what they were saying about this

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the girl Virginia Volga Shan is that

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when she had her books in her hand when

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he approached out of the shadows he

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lifts she lifted the book up to her face

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and he shot right through the book and

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killed because he didn't kill people

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very cool he certainly wasn't going for

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the grotesque or like you know you know

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putting people into crucifixes or

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stuffing them into fantastic sort of

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small sized dolls and then throwing

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those dolls on the windshield but he did

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have a type well his stuff was about

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building a character legs tightly

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toughest he said he they tried to build

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a type into him because that's what

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happened with my mother was this like my

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mother living for us all the time right

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around the place where victims four and

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five were killed and she would have to

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be escorted home because they sent out

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this bulletin after he sent out the

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letters it was in his first letter he

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just keeps talking about the beautiful

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women of Queens about how Queens is the

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most beautiful women and you know and

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they should all watch me said except for

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mr. Braus

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let's say that my mom was actually

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really really hot back in the day and

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she had long brown hair and that's what

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they said that he was gunning after was

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long around hair and the end they just

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found out it was completely random

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it's like calling a oh I'm the smartest

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kid the Special Olympics you know what's

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the take to be attractive in Queens

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couple of toads she got four toes I

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guess she's the most attractive girl

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around worse - the whole time her

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gestures he doesn't have a symbol stain

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on it the new thing on the gingers oh no

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there's one she's hot

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never mind I thought she was ugly for a

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second well that's a mustard stain that

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chick gives it up pretty good Jersey

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accent okay Queens it's fine it's all

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exactly the same same strain of awful

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the monkey that lives in Queens

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it's really like a down-home hero type

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this is the Joe Namath of serial killers

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Broadway that a nickname it is it is now

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yeah

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Great White Way Sam Big Apple son Sam

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got the location or is it more of a

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Michael Myers type situation where you

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just walked everyone

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we might be on a very similar journey

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let's just say was in unions we're

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shopping at Mandy's that fantastic store

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get read the shoe store yeah important

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Trader Joe's before but maybe he was in

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a whole food

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you know that in for

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a walk through this exact subway station

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six Avenue and

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taken is insane

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hideous entourage like

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we are we your entourage what the death

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of his mother is what set him off talk

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about that who doesn't say cuz he was

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given up for adoption and when he found

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out later on because he's a biological

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mother had an affair with other man

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while she was married to this did this

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loveless relationship with her with her

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the man raised him and he begged her to

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have an abortion and she said no and

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then the leader years later basically

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when he was a genius kid and then

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started getting in trouble they IQ of

14:41 170 once an IQ yeah which is like right 14:44

this is a gifted it's good right and he

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started getting in trouble and in a

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flight she told him that she should have

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ordered him but how many times does a

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mother say that to a child oh they're

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told it to me at least four or five

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times and she was more pro-life than

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that you know good knows a small ski my

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mom would put a little crown on me and

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I'd sit in a little throne

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and she bring me a little like candies

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and candied fruits and then normal

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candies and then fruit and then just

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lots and lots and lots of meatloaf and

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buttered noodles and then would you have

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for dinner oh then it would be turkey

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we'd have a turkey lasagna a turkey a

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meat lasagna interesting and then sue

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yeah and then clutter doodles

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the also mean he had a carcass that was

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all things they busted him

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they basically set up a sting

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they set up a sting operation for him

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and when they believe we found him on

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parking tickets

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they were giving him a parking ticket

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and saw a rifle in his backseat

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he came out basically of his apartment

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he came out of his apartment

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they basically grabbed him and he said

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his words to them were what took you so

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long

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you got me and they found a 44 caliber

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and a Brownback in his hands and they're

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like man you're really acting bizarre

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it's just a parking ticket

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take it easy enjoy anything that wrong

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I'm the right man

16:29

Alan are you just a little traffic

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offender you're fine no no do you think

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he's the killer

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I don't know we better let's shift the

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logs I don't know man I want to play

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King Kong on the water play King Kong an

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arcade machine back back greasy

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well I guess we'll have to arrest him

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then people had guilty to it three

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hundred and sixty five years sentence

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which God knows he can still get out

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he'll get out he'll get out of the one

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ripe young age of 400 he is instant it's

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like human Manson can put up like they

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have to do all every year actually they

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hide and let him out I mean Batman

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always is more exciting when the Joker

17:21

and the Riddler get out there is no

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Batman

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we are back Batman hat oh are you Batman

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holy shit I'll be the Batman or New York

17:31

you're sort of like a Batman hey get rid

17:34

of that baby changing with see he's a

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cat man

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yeah that's good that's good I could be

17:40

a new Batman for the cat man okay so the

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more I go over it so his first first

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Judy in July 29 1976 Jodi Valenti and

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Donna Laurie Valenti survives the second

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time it goes out there October 23rd 1976

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near the Halloween out and he kills he

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tries to shoot Carl

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denaro and rosemary Keenan they both

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survive it wasn't a crack shot no

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absolutely not

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you know you work for the you supposed

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to work

18:07

he wasn't a train he left they were

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supposed to be amazing and shooting No

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now he was just mad the third time she's

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mad at girls because they didn't want to

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date him the world would he's a postal

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worker the third time Donna Demasi and

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then eighteen-year-old Joanne Lamine Oh

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Donna lives completely but Joanne gets

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paralyzed for life so he's getting

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closer to killing them killed over us

18:30

where he killed the first one but then

18:32

he would go to the Miami Heat this is

18:34

the terrible way to start a season think

18:36

about this all right how we'll do see

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during these killers here's like 27 28

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was a young men - LeBron James there's

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nervous you're you're filled with hate

18:44

you're probably you're fat you're sweaty

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and like you're holding a gigantic done

18:48

you're trying to fulfill what you

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believe has become your destiny there's

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a lot of pressure on you there is it's

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hard for you to be a cracker the news

18:56

media is starting to get to you he's

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reading the page six is all about an

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absolute I don't want to lose weight you

19:01

know Andrea pies or get off my back

19:04

that's true he's not getting past at CBC

19:08

right all these stuff is a comedy

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so really we're going to - we're going

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to his first death in a year his first

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real kill one about six months because

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it's January 30th is the one that we're

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going to Kristen Freund I mean he just

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finished

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the world to finally get one

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you in a long time without killing

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anybody that's like it's like his penis

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in where I'm sure his penis is Myrtle

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first place at all

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I mean paralyzing somebody for life is

19:39

like going to going into the third

19:41

overtime in a game seven and the NBA

19:42

finals are losing by one it's like

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you're so close I guess that's true but

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not you go away a limp

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and the end I don't think it was about

19:52

that I think it was about his sort of

19:54

when he and kept believing this is

19:55

grander message of fear my favorite

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choice that he made here was against was

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with Judy Placido in Sal Lupu they were

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both shot they both survived but they

20:06

were leaving a discount so he good taste

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in music

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salut salut prepare OOP what kind of

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name is Lupin

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it's a Nicaraguan and Willy Wonka that's

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gonna feel a few it feels very um it's

20:22

chocolate ringing oh yeah wrong with

20:24

y'all - were the chocolate ring

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I'm gonna name it first son Luke lupa

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it's a good kill theory proves or else

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he none of mine he's going to the

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coolest I have a dream of it

20:36

Henry Thomas excuse me behind one after

20:39

telling him never telling these adopted

20:41

no fun everyone now hello everyone until

20:44

don't be like he's natural birth so are

20:45

you just kidding are you just gonna like

20:47

stay super tan or just a continue to eat

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shellfish at your large or to and just

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always be red that's good I'm kind of

20:54

red right now

20:55

you were ferry red right now alright so

20:59

we are one stop away from 71st Street

21:02

forest to

21:04

means how we feel right now boy I mean

21:07

I'm excited to get off this train and

21:08

see just could smell the air man smelly

21:11

over the Son of Sam you used to smell

21:13

like done w when I got like gun residue

21:15

gun smoke correctly headed into very

21:18

nice area of Queens miss Mina

21:22

Ellen person Avenue

21:25

branding on this train

21:28

and five these people are serial killers

21:30

going to coins colonel T is actually in

21:32

statistic like one in five people

21:34

circles

21:36

what if five people had one inside

21:38

surfaces and people well two of us or

21:41

seven out of ten

21:43

one in five people in serial killer

21:46

Queens 1 & 3

21:52

one in two people have had sex of the

21:55

corpse

21:57

you know people trust us Henry and when

21:59

you throw out a random statistics it's

22:00

one in three bullets and had sex with a

22:03

corpse

22:03

oh it's more than 3,000 that you're

22:05

right about that well that's a huge

22:06

difference isn't it I kind of want to

22:09

read another quick tip under the police

22:11

what if we just start great pretty thick

22:13

letters so police that aren't about

22:15

murders let us feel like like what we

22:18

did then we get that I made a waffle

22:20

okay

22:21

you're either well okay no you have it

22:23

how about the Son of Sam

22:25

the son this thing you like write all

22:27

these letters from the Sun to Sam to the

22:28

police

22:30

that's pretty awesome I'll be fine are

22:33

you to yodel today then we can be

22:34

prisoners you fucking forget to like

22:38

scare watch Netflix into queue oh do I

22:41

give a shit about you love this

22:42

understand

22:45

would you write it in your own shit you

22:46

read it in your own shit so it's

22:48

interesting

22:49

well of course you have to write into

22:50

your own feces I mean everybody knows

22:52

that kill a dog take its skin right on

22:56

it your top ten instant you choices set

23:00

into David lemon and David Letterman see

23:02

what it says good if he doesn't like

23:03

that send it to the bulldozer cocks good

23:05

yeah I love the idea I think this is

23:08

really going to help us kick Salima Cup

23:10

with the fun that's right you can't

23:12

smell me calm without come-come macabre

23:15

yeah kapre comedy

23:17

yeah welcome back to the search of the

23:22

boogeyman episode one Sunnis and victims

23:25

for five who are you with right here for

23:28

sale centers that we you are here we are

23:30

headed right over here Dartmouth Street

23:32

rhombus realism which is right along

23:36

this dark mystery

23:37

all right the swoop don't guess let's go

23:44

just this stuff Buster Bank relatively

23:47

here as far as the actual structures of

23:49

it it's pretty nice developed part of

23:51

town

23:52

it's very busy it's super busy

23:55

it's also

23:57

you know thirty years later yeah I

24:00

actually think there's something that

24:02

the city does I think it's very

24:04

interesting the city is a very short

24:05

memory right and city doesn't really

24:08

look different cities a high turnover

24:09

rate they like to bury the stuff I think

24:11

something happened when the murders

24:13

happened on here because this used to

24:14

just be mom-and-pop shop this was all

24:18

even I remember like growing up it's

24:20

like my mom who spent a lot of time in

24:21

this area and it's like completely

24:23

different there's all chain restaurants

24:25

look at this bridge here like this could

24:29

be like late at night you could turn

24:31

into a festival of whores

24:33

killing you and your family underneath

24:35

it me it's all sort of like - it's like

24:38

there's something to me it's very funny

24:40

about like small town nice areas that

24:42

are turned a nightmare works by

24:44

murderers that's why a slasher flicks is

24:47

so great yeah luckily we have Kiki with

24:52

us is the perfect definition of some Sam

24:54

victims just in case he's back here

24:57

someone of his copycat killers he'll

25:00

take her leave us he'll see us as sort

25:03

of his allies and joyous thing this is

25:07

it

25:10

it's quite nice yeah completely change

25:13

everybody smells really good too

25:15

yeah how do they do that if they can

25:16

make this part of town smell good why

25:18

can't they make all what the recipes

25:20

cook Queen Queen is a river of french

25:24

fried fat run homes bottom of it all

25:28

right we got the truth

25:30

this is Dartmouth Street here and I must

25:32

say it's rustic it looks very Jack the

25:35

Ripper ass she's actually completely

25:37

changed I wonder if this whole thing may

25:39

be told

25:44

I mean I will say on things will realize

25:48

they're literally standing on top of a

25:50

grape

25:53

we have overpriced Bud Lights and their

25:56

overpriced chicken fingers there is a

25:58

poor girl walking back from what is afar

26:01

nard University get shot in the face

26:06

here we go

26:08

this is dark Mar so she's just walking

26:10

by to cool better get that physics exam

26:13

better study pretty hard we're passing

26:15

to Dartmouth right now she's just

26:17

thinking about oh I think professor

26:19

Hampton was pretty attractive today do

26:21

you think he was looking at me I have no

26:23

idea

26:23

oh god who are you well apparently I'm

26:27

victims uh five like right afterwards he

26:31

would he came out from behind cars like

26:33

right here you see a regular parts of

26:35

cars park right here he came out acid a

26:37

very high-pitched voice hey curtain yet

26:38

you call me a word and then he shot them

26:41

isn't that really creepy that's

26:43

unbelievably fast that's how that's this

26:45

look what a cat does to a mouse this is

26:48

it there this is where I was got a for

26:51

Darmouth Brandon Oh ladies and gentlemen

26:52

it looks it's beautiful

26:55

it's all under construction it's all

26:57

under construction they're still trying

26:58

to rebuild and this is where that young

27:01

Emily it's gorgeous

27:03

and that's five garment yeah the house

27:06

right there actually does look a little

27:08

haunted Oh completely hon just keep

27:10

walking

27:11

so we know should we go knock on their

27:12

door should we knock on some doors yeah

27:15

free ham your embassy you remember

27:17

solicit shit I just understand the frizz

27:20

about the pub game I was talking about

27:22

this with Kissel about gonna wait for

27:24

good there's something is really

27:26

interesting about going like you know

27:30

you go to see mass death sites you know

27:33

if you go to Ground Zero or you go to

27:35

like Gettysburg or something has

27:37

definitely feeling sort of like gravity

27:39

tools you show up someplace 2,000 people

27:41

to die and it's just very interesting

27:43

just like this one like this is a one

27:45

woman died here there was like a pivotal

27:47

point of like one of the most infamous

27:49

crime stories in the world ever record

27:53

an honest woman here number five is

27:55

probably the reason that they caught the

27:57

Son of Sam to begin with because it was

27:59

at this point they realized they're

28:01

dealing with the 44 caliber killer it

28:03

wasn't smart enough to get two guns you

28:05

know and this is the way they're really

28:07

started to put it all together not to

28:09

mention you could tell if the place was

28:10

half this nice a killing in this

28:12

neighborhood must have been fucking

28:13

earth-shattering

28:14

you know this would have happened on you

28:16

know shit Bronx no one who cares what's

28:20

happening like the first to happen in

28:22

the Bronx and you can see that it's like

28:23

people just sort of it this makes more

28:27

of a statement well it's gonna be almost

28:29

any neighborhood anywhere in America

28:31

that's like a really good base which is

28:33

nice this front yard and for those that

28:36

don't think that the front front yard is

28:38

rare I haven't seen a front yard in New

28:40

York City in three years yeah

28:43

like yeah my backpack up you look

28:48

creeped out it is unbelievably scary

28:51

it's but you know at the same time

28:53

nobody is out here here no one's out

28:57

here you see how we could do it because

28:59

there isn't a soul

29:00

everybody has jobs everyone's dawei come

29:02

be Congress women or work for the head

29:05

of Sanitation tomorrow they don't have

29:06

time to be out and it's only 11 o'clock

29:10

at night it's dead

29:12

this is Mark no talking not even a bird

29:17

nothing not a car stop there's one

29:20

driver there's a young girl it's

29:22

straight so and you can see the

29:24

isolation we were out here you can just

29:27

see how it's extreme pause we're just

29:29

walking alone and if I'm ignore us or

29:33

isolated than a potato in the middle of

29:35

Iceland I mean not another one around

29:37

have you no potatoes in Iceland no it's

29:40

cold what I thought potatoes did well in

29:43

bad weather

29:43

well I think you were fucking idiot

29:46

there's potatoes that's what you said

29:48

when you and you're scared you're

29:50

abusive iodide I'm terrified I'm sorry

29:52

Henry you're not an idiot potatoes do

29:54

grow in Iceland I I didn't know we were

29:57

gonna be stalking about root fruits

30:02

it's not a fruit a root is a fruit not

30:05

potatoes not a special pretend vegetable

30:08

no no what yeah she's not dead is she

30:23

she just texted me back so she's not not

30:26

that you asked her if she was dead yes

30:28

you asked her she was dead did not

30:30

specifically ask her you could you ask

30:33

her ask her if she's dead does have long

30:36

brown hair we need to know for sure cuz

30:39

you're with us you're not safe she's not

30:42

safe either Oh take some footage with

30:44

your camera if you want to get a real

30:46

yeah let's keep moving along east gives

30:48

out more chemo I mean it's just so

30:50

bizarre because I'm sort of getting

30:51

feelings of like that where Elm Street

30:54

oh yeah you definitely my own master

30:56

chemistry it has the you know that the

30:58

trees make an arch in the you know

31:01

middle just gorgeous

31:05

no this is a very upscale neighborhood

31:07

this is what is going to happen I mean

31:08

like she was just coming home from she

31:10

was coming home from school you know

31:12

she's coming home to her she'll live

31:13

with her parents like out here and then

31:16

you know when he brought he brought his

31:19

misery here and he's such a coward you

31:22

know like you think you stood far away

31:24

any shot he'd look like you did surprise

31:26

shooting he didn't even do like he knows

31:29

he could have followed her though he

31:31

could have chosen her block away from

31:37

full Dartmouth so this is probably

31:40

around the area at that time

31:41

he ran away miss Froy was shot his

31:43

victims before yeah it was only like 5

31:48

or 6 bucks Garnica yeah these things on

31:50

me oh my god Vinny tied with Jack for

31:53

the nature of hearing I can't click off

31:54

of you take off it's gonna hit me yeah

31:57

Jesus Christ here this thing just is

32:01

something around here wow this is

32:03

probably where she died this this is a

32:05

this is a spruce made from her blood it

32:08

grew out of the ground where she

32:09

collapsed it's just it storms there's no

32:12

other thorny bush around except for that

32:13

one and the fireflies yeah are beautiful

32:16

yeah Souls Souls Souls a merciful

32:22

results Catholics have you know

32:25

Christians have weird dicks plantings

32:26

are a lot different

32:30

the only if we should look we should try

32:32

to stop when the password binds and talk

32:35

to them or quick as if they know I mean

32:37

they must know Botox I'd love to do that

32:38

we should just stop that guy

32:41

I think maybe let's have let's ask these

32:43

people about it ask hey guys

32:46

excuse me we're doing a show about the

32:48

Son of Sam do you guys remember anything

32:51

about that back in the seventies at all

32:53

oh nothing

32:57

Sam yeah because it's for Dartmouth

33:00

right there right they've did a big

33:02

documentary here it was shooting no

33:04

filming I think it was last year as well

33:07

I remember none of the girls wanted to

33:10

have long hair

33:14

and girls were like putting their hair

33:16

up in ponytails my mom was the same

33:18

exact way Jenny have like five blocks

33:20

from here and she's a get exported home

33:22

every single time she came up from the

33:23

train left you guys would walk her and

33:25

so the what was the overall like mood

33:27

cuz what is it with it this nice back in

33:29

like 70s I didn't live here I lived in

33:31

Kew Gardens okay which is right on the

33:34

other side but it was all around

33:35

everybody everybody knew we do we did we

33:39

do a lot of hanging out on the stoop and

33:42

not going far from home and all the

33:44

girls had their hair in ponytails or

33:46

anything to make it look like it wasn't

33:48

long hair that's so fast you know like

33:50

one person we had girl

33:51

O'Day I was super into them all right

33:53

yes she got shot right over here I think

33:56

it was that first girl that survived I

33:58

think yeah yeah she was right right

34:00

around here can you think of another

34:01

time where somebody that's like that

34:03

much of a chilling effect on it like an

34:05

entire population of like 9 million

34:07

people's like in there besides yeah when

34:09

the towers towers came down yeah that's

34:12

amazing

34:13

thank you thank you so much happening

34:15

sure take care

34:17

holy Lord Igor D what a journey that was

34:20

and what was most amazing to me was the

34:21

interview that we were able to do we

34:23

stop this couple on the street and I

34:25

felt so bad the the the food really good

34:27

at harnessing that - because someone of

34:29

your size approaching just a hey hey got

34:31

some questions for you hey let me talk

34:33

to you

34:33

Dylan a son Sam you know that peaceful

34:36

man I'm looking for my dad you ever seen

34:39

him it's the Son of Sam we stop there's

34:42

a fantastic lady Craig I'm the grandson

34:44

Sam hello I'm the great I don't kill

34:47

people but I say mean things to him so

34:50

we stopped this couple into it's a guy

34:52

he looks to be in his sixties or

34:53

seventies he's fat and bald so it's hard

34:55

to tell you know I that's they fat bald

34:58

men age like black women oh yeah I don't

35:00

know if you're 1652 more and more like a

35:03

fucking cantaloupe and I just want you I

35:05

just need to be in a khaki open eat the

35:07

meat inside your fucking husk that's

35:10

right

35:10

so we got this we stopped a couple and

35:12

the gal there she was nice enough and I

35:13

think they were together she was in her

35:15

late for you so he was doing fantastic

35:16

and it makes sense because he has to be

35:18

wealthiest held because the Forest Hills

35:20

area I'm sure that you heard it on the

35:21

on the tape I mean that's mansion it's

35:22

absolutely gorgeous head there they are

35:24

their own City Patrol I mean it's what a

35:26

creepy place say the silence and the

35:28

City Patrol did almost pick me and Kiki

35:31

up for trying to break into for

35:33

Dartmouth that's right and I forget I

35:34

want to thank Kiki you Prell for coming

35:36

along and being our gal on the street

35:38

there with us and people art Son of Sam

35:40

bait yes our son Sam bait and she'll be

35:42

will be our correspondents from here on

35:44

out she's super thrilled we're super

35:45

thrilled to have her on board so yeah

35:48

and I thought the the the the only

35:50

equate the only thing that the woman

35:52

could equate the Son of Sam to as far as

35:55

the chill of the city was 9/11 yeah

35:57

which I thought was an amazing just she

36:00

was doing exactly what he set out to

36:03

exactly what he wanted to do he was

36:05

little Lady gaga of serial killers and

36:07

he was born that way he was born that

36:09

way you know I'm not gonna be one of

36:11

these politicians out there oh maybe

36:12

it's a choice to be your serial killer

36:14

like no you're born with a Mis wire in

36:17

your head that's what I'm saying like if

36:18

you just heard that song or you know out

36:21

here walk by all right al

36:26

hi he would just learn that all you do

36:29

was dance you know build leather goods

36:32

that's right well the the look in that

36:34

woman's eye like that was such a sincere

36:37

look of fear yeah my absolute fear

36:39

whenever she was talking to pops right

36:41

back in yeah it does and it's been 40

36:43

years 40 years and still there's only

36:45

been two events since the same as Son of

36:47

Sam in New York City and one was a man

36:49

who killed eight people in another event

36:50

killed 3,000 and started two wars I mean

36:53

that's that is an astounding like I just

36:57

can't imagine like and your mother was

36:59

saying right like your mother so after

37:00

this like every single morning you wake

37:02

up you put your hair up why because

37:04

there's a crazy serial killer about

37:05

who's there trying to kill girls that

37:07

look just like you right and you get off

37:10

the subway I better make sure that I

37:12

arranged my appointment with Tom to pick

37:14

me up here because otherwise I'm gonna

37:16

be murdered by a random guy with a 44

37:18

caliber you know kind of changes it

37:19

imagined changed the entire face the

37:22

neighborhood and that's what she was

37:23

talking about to with like their I mean

37:25

we had a scare when I was growing up of

37:27

a kid who wouldn't bid they were yeah

37:30

they were like how is this fat boy

37:32

throwing up why is he throwing up and

37:34

still so fat just like oh it's cause I

37:38

got to be bid say to me and that's what

37:40

I said and they believed me

37:41

um but ravioli being excited yeah I

37:44

don't know what it is yo shit yet can

37:46

you get free different we're happy Yoli

37:48

so but we had a child snatcher in our

37:51

neighborhood and that was kind of the

37:53

automatic response was is that the whole

37:55

neighborhood just comes out where it's

37:57

like everyone was on the street at all

37:59

nights and like watching over each other

38:01

and it's kind of where parts of New York

38:03

again so interesting where we're a

38:07

metropolis and again there's millions of

38:09

millions of people you can go to

38:10

anonymous but then parts of the city can

38:12

just turn into a small town yeah you're

38:14

part of the said you could just turn

38:15

into the safety cloak of a small town

38:17

and same thing we're talking about after

38:19 9/11 what happened in the city where 38:21

it's just like it creates a sort of

38:22

surge of hope then because people are

38:25

looking out for each other and that's

38:28

what's wonderful about the city but also

38:31

allows it sort of insidious fucked up

38:34

dark shadowy side that allows ocean to

38:36

fester son

38:37

Sam really just brought the community

38:39

together yeah he was like like a

38:41

fantastic carnival coming through town

38:43

more barbering yeah everyone just came

38:45

out was just like thank you Son of Sam

38:47

we're having a great time I've never

38:49

felt this close to my guys they're gonna

38:51

fucking bounce e house good everybody

38:55

bouncing the fucking bouncy house gonna

38:57

say I'm ain't gonna go Murr got us to

38:59

gauge OE yeah Joey yeah this is not like

39:03

a Joey I look a god about your old coke

39:06

bottles the film was sand difficult it

39:09

said and I pull the googly eyes at the

39:11

outside of took a fucking person it's

39:15

the sand person like that movie star

39:17

wars Son of Sam has healed Queens again

39:20

he did he always has but so they

39:22

eventually got him after what was it

39:24

eight murders uh let's see here

39:27

it was it was eight total and yep eight

39:30

old last one was done in South Brooklyn

39:32

around Bensonhurst yeah you obviously

39:34

did to sort of throw off the trail of

39:36

everything else you yeah yeah yeah I'm

39:37

looking at a map right now and you know

39:40

what's funny is that uh some of the

39:42

murders I'd say at least there's two of

39:44

them that are just within a few blocks

39:46

of each other that was in fondles that's

39:48

where we were

39:49

oh no uh victims one in six in the Bronx

39:52

yeah we're real close to each other uh

39:54

and then the other three in Queens were

39:56

you know pretty far apart of course the

39:58

one down in Bensonhurst was very last

40:00

everybody uh but I find that I found

40:02

that interesting though I think I I

40:03

don't it kind of lends credence alike do

40:06

we know how he chose like his area I

40:09

think that he was very random he might

40:11

have just been in Bensonhurst that day I

40:13

just like I go to bed I'm gonna kill

40:15

somebody like the way that you just had

40:16

a stressful day working like a Coors

40:18

Light with the closest bar I'm pretty

40:20

sure it was a it was a mixture of there

40:23

there was completely random shit and

40:25

there was line eat yeah he coming of

40:27

course you know the irony of getting all

40:29

the press that you ever wanted was me

40:30

that everyone is on the lookout you know

40:33

yeah well that was the other thing is

40:34

that uh during that summer there was a

40:36

gigantic heat wave yeah New York City

40:39

like so again everyone was just on the

40:40

street the majority in New York doesn't

40:43

have central air right several inches

40:44

out and that also increases crime to be

40:48

so fuckin I want to stab both of you

40:51

right now

40:51

that's how hot this like coffee so yeah

40:54

fuckin hole right now I want to cut off

40:56

your skin and wear like a suit and kill

40:58

myself

40:58

yeah be like why Muslims guess where

41:00

we're burkas it's surprisingly enough

41:02

makes you war or colder is that it snow

41:04

yeah of course that's why they wear it

41:05

I'm wearing shorts I know but if you

41:08

were in a burka you would be more

41:09

comfortable I'm covered in hair though

41:12

well you yeah I'm not saying you're

41:13

exactly like an Arab woman you're like

41:15

less hairy but I want to that on they

41:18

wear hats and read that Batman hats oh

41:20

no no no they don't believe in fucking

41:22

Batman because they don't like to have

41:24

images of their gods Batman's the only

41:26

thing I worship absolutely thing is

41:28

gonna save us in the end

41:29

and Ray Henry come help me I'm Batman

41:34

God yeah Henry go into the store and get

41:38

my robot awesome I can't go anywhere

41:40

dressed like this man I'm gonna do

41:43

anything for you Bob where's Batman you

41:46

my new boss dag you and Ray is that how

41:49

it's gonna happen yeah Batman fell in

41:52

hard time and recession thank God you

41:54

know thank God I need fucking some but

41:57

it's not good to pick me up out of this

41:58

bullshit

41:59

cuz I'm gonna live to 87 so I got to do

42:01

something I got 90 I don't know what

42:03

those three years are gonna be like

42:04

without you mr. Zebrowski there's gonna

42:06

be you playing Yahtzee by yourself

42:07

trying to jerk off your dead penis I

42:10

just can't wait to finally win it every

42:11

time I play yatzee yatzee doesn't even

42:13

matter I win it all

42:15

but yeah so that's pretty much where

42:17

we're at with Son of Sam it was an

42:18

amazing journey and we were thrilled to

42:21

go on it I just want to go deeper into

42:23

the city this and we're going to we're

42:24

going to continue our search for the New

42:26

York boogie man over the next couple of

42:28

episodes we really want to find

42:29

something regal they'll be completely

42:31

honest want to find something that he's

42:33

genuinely fucking frightening if you

42:35

have any advice please leave a comment

42:37

on the cave comedy radio site cave

42:39

comedy radio calm send us an email

42:41

actually at a CCR podcast network at

42:43

gmail.com

42:44

here we go CCR pikas networking.com CCR

42:47

podcast network at gmail.com wow that's

42:50

a lot of that's a lot of email a lot of

42:52

letters I don't know if our fans

42:54

remember to figure it out just joking

42:55

you're so smart

42:58

but yeah we're getting deep we're gonna

43:00

get deep and frighten ourselves we're

43:01

gonna frighten you that's right we got

43:03

Kiki she's going out this week in New

43:05

Orleans she's gonna try to interview a

43:07

voodoo priest and I imagine she's gonna

43:08

get a lot out of him he's gonna be area

43:10

rugs Camila are looking buggy buggy look

43:12

Allah Allah you see me bones

43:14

Oh I throw the bones it means you're

43:17

gonna get sick and of course that's just

43:19

a homeless fella right outside of Penn

43:20

Station I cross the bones every once in

43:22

a while yeah who doesn't toss bones I

43:24

toss bones but it always just comes out

43:26

as bones yeah look at that him ditches

43:29

bones yeah huh well it's fun it must be

43:32

nice to actually feel a bone he's a

43:33

little chubby ladies and gentlemen how

43:35

are ya oh my god I have nothing ladies

43:39

and gentleman you have a whole bunch of

43:40

stuff and go out and do it because this

43:42

episode of last podcast on the left is

43:44

over and I think we're gonna be trying

43:45

to go to Elbert fish's house next time

43:46

there'll be a lot of fun will your movie

43:48

to a whole whole series we do a lot of

43:49

creepy shit I love it and I love you

43:51

Marcus I love you beh love you Henry

43:53

I love you Ben all right this I'm glad

43:55

you guys survived the massive car

43:56

accident you guys are happy you don't

43:58

love Marcus that's the best part about

43:59

this is that you think that God has

44:01

forgotten about us if he exists but two

44:04

of you guys probably should be dead we

44:06

talked about it in the top hat - yeah we

44:08

probably should be it was very possible

44:09

you know we should definitely be dead

44:11

Son of Sam she just figured there's

44:12

nothing up there is there and the only

44:14

random chance totally red and we could

44:15

have just been dead like this you'd be

44:17

up here you know doing this pod kids by

44:19

yourself but none of the cords be

44:20

plugged in oh no I heard shouting at the

44:23

bathroom somebody's in there somebody

44:26

are you in there you do podcasts we're

44:29

doing it right now don't get out of

44:30

there hey Marcus and Ben died in a car

44:32

accident Oh dirty transfer over the Son

44:34

of Sam files before he died

44:35

do we still have those I would never

44:38

fucking do that I would never do thank

44:40

you rate all right this is the last box

44:43

on the left we'll talk to you next week

44:45

hey let's come up with the catchphrase

44:46

right now uh-huh look it's in town

44:49

bucket to town uh-huh kids of town I

44:52

don't know I put a buckets of cow and

44:53

named buckets of town congratulations

44:56

Jesus Christ then how about congratulate

44:59

that's your all right well I'll see you

45:01

next week we're gonna tie I'm looking

45:02

forward to it I'm gonna stick with that

45:03

one cuz my graduation is good megusta uh

45:07

yeah gusta megusta congratulations

45:12

ah mines me gusta megusta

45:14

congratulations is mine and I have yeah

45:16

okay I have made goo so you can have

45:19

congratulations

45:20

I get megusta mo gusta I'm looking

45:22

forward to it congratulations that

45:24

sounds good

45:25

is it good I like a trilayer motto which

45:31

one more what one more

45:33

megusta congratulation less you have it

45:37

what I'm looking forward to it it's all

45:39

over I'm looking forward to that's good

45:42

congratulations Jesus when goosed

45:44

already it'll never end I don't know if

45:46

I used to means what is but gusta it

45:49

megusta means I like it it does yeah

45:52

congratulations means congratulations

45:55

for doing well

45:56

yeah I'm Agusta it I might like it I'm

46:01

all I'm Agusta it oh it doesn't matter

46:03

today gusta lations me alright McGoo

46:07

still Asians ladies and gentlemen Magoo

46:09

still Asians it is good night go do

46:13

something terrible