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- welcome to the last podcast on the left
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- episode 14 on episode 13 I should have
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- said that we're skipping over 13 because
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- I'm here with Marcus Parks I am Ben
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- Kissel with the scientists the professor
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- the master of all that is horror and
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- gruesome Hong Kong Henry Zebrowski
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- handwritten on her to me I got rice in
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- my shoes
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- hey those are better than mine what are
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- you getting your shoes I've got sushi
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- shoes ladies and gentlemen it's not good
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- that should be sushi flip-flops I know
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- every year dhoom smells like tuna and
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- avocado nobody likes it everybody hates
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- me I thought that was just your shirts
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- well you never know what I'm wearing
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- you've been wearing that Suspiria shirt
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- for about seven days now are you scared
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- yet cuz you should be it's a bit stinky
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- number 13 unlucky number speed of
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- unlucky holy Lord the victims of this
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- Son of Sam character ladies and
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- gentlemen weren't barking in a new a
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- journey we're going to be calling
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- chasing the boogeyman what we're looking
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- for is true New York boogeyman that have
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- existed even in the past or exist right
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- now or will exist in the future such as
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- right bends children my children that's
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- what I'm not going to have the Mehran I
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- do have them immediately in cuffs right
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- at birth you cuff him up officer hey
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- officer B no I know where that cats
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- gonna be doing preemptive strike yes
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- what I would call it with your children
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- you better buckle up Tiffany Kissel
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- Tiffany Kissel is gonna be a real crazy
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- kook job everybody if any Kissel's him
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- that's a rough name it's a real rough
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- name and she's a rough gal hey is that
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- her bosoms no that's her back can't tell
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- the difference she's had some weight
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- issues dead let me see your face I don't
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- have a phrase well that's what happens
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- when someone puts a skillet to it when
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- they're three years old you know God
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- knows I needed to make my bacon you're a
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- monster
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- hello speedo monsters got Son of Sam on
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- the docket Son of Sam was a true New
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- York boogey man in the year of 1976 he
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- held New York in a series of didn't got
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- seizure of terror seizure of terror
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- seizure each other literally July 2 July
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- I believe it's a solid
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- round number one and during that summer
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- basically the whole city was put on
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- lockdown there was a gigantic curfew and
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- it became believe over time that he was
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- targeting women with long brown hair
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- right um so everything you find later on
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- it was all completely not since he just
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- made all that up it was all completely
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- random well it was completely random but
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- you know then again I think that he did
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- pioneer a certain hairstyle that he
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- should get credit for if Jennifer
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- Aniston is getting credit for the
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- Jennifer why isn't uh you know raise him
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- right is that it was it the Rachel yeah
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- it's the Rachel right after a character
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- and so wise ins on the Sam getting
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- credited for the princess Leah look it's
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- very obvious the Prince alia was just
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- terrified of the sunset I'm also going
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- to put a grand coincidence card out
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- there and say that Wow he waited lady's
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- agility you don't get her for like six
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- months bro man but this is the big thing
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- princess leah was a movie took place on
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- Tatooine in a galaxy long ago and far
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- far away and while it was the same
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- summer that Star Wars was released that
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- movie was shot long maybe wasn't I
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- played my card wrong you played the
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- wrong card
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- fuck you freedom bad so we went to kill
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- number four and five we took a journey
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- as we like to do so much and we went to
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- Forest Hills so what are the two names
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- of four and five the two names are
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- Christine Freund Lincolnton blind and
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- German for Freund right and Virginia
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- Bhaskar each Ian ah that's fine that's
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- it that's just your normal name so we
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- went on our journey to Forest Hills we
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- took the watch every day we take the we
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- took the F train to the 71st Street
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- Forest Hills stop by fuck middle of
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- Queens you know but F middle of Queens
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- God knows and we get off the subway
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- station and it's very nice it's a
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- metropolis type area there's a big arena
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- you know which we can imagine it's
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- probably uh you were very enamored with
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- the pizzeria who know Johnny Rockets
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- John Rocker there which was closed yet
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- because nobody goes to Johnny rocket was
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- also partially due to your attitude
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- about Johnny Rock yes I always said that
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- I have a power to do such things like I
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- closed a bar in the East Village
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- uh in Italian places well called sento
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- set I've
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- boycotted because they kicked me out I
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- brought in my own coffee and I was like
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- you know I'm having pizza right it's not
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- coffee shop yeah so I put a curse on
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- that place wouldn't you believe it
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- two weeks later closed down and double
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- whammy
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- it was Mars favorite restaurant boo boo
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- boyfriend win girl fight was your
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- girlfriend's favorite restaurant and you
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- got kicked out of there I didn't get
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- kicked out of there I walked out on my
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- own volition because I'm not throwing
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- out a $3 thing a cappuccino from
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- Starbucks your serial killer
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- aren't you well Alan and I would say
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- some ass and probably drink a lot of
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- coffee all of these things happen
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- tonight he's just such an interesting
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- figure we're talking about how sort of
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- Sam became a characters like there's a
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- lot of serial killers that like to make
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- things very personal like John Wayne
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- Gacy was very personal Richard Ramirez
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- is very personal Jeffrey Dahmer very
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- personal killings was about sex it was
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- about it did sort of taking control over
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- a situation that they felt out of it you
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- know and like you're Jeffrey Dahmer's
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- they would collect body parts from their
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- victims I mean Jeffrey went as far as to
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- eat them so they would become him
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- because God knows everybody wants to
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- become a 13 year old Filipino boy yeah
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- me to be able to kill the president but
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- like I'm not a president now no you're
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- not but mm-hmm
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- you're powerful yeah I make spring rolls
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- of my dreams okay um eating that kind of
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- race but Son of Sam was trying to make a
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- name for himself you trying to be a
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- movie star lady today are our first
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- celebrity killer given the tabloid era
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- of the 1970s yeah you look at it's like
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- him and you Jack the Ripper Zodiac
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- killer uh BTK was very similar to these
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- are like nobodies and New York he's got
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- such a special breeding ground for that
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- and the fact that there's millions of
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- people here it's very easy to just go
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- completely anonymous right you know
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- you're just a number
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- the irony of being around millions of
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- people is that nobody sees you yeah well
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- yeah I think is so bizarre because if
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- you're in a small town of 200 oh I think
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- Hank was at the store at 9:30 he usually
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- goes at 9:28 what's going on in his
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- relationship he's a serial killer better
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- find out you know they have a stakeout
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- every 13-year old boy
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- gathers their bicycles and gets their
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- lighters ready in their cigars and they
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- go they stake out Hanks out
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- cos God knows what's going on over there
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- small-town life is weird it's different
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- so yet Burke was sort of able to
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- ironically hide under the guise of uh
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- you know the large population and he was
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- very common looking fellow he actually
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- was about the exact same size of Henry
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- Zebrowski yeah the perfect size he was
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- the size of a human being yeah yeah he
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- was definitely one size yeah he was just
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- like one day like it's not going to help
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- him as far as us well I mean then again
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- if he was six foot seven he could never
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- pulled out what he did it would be like
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- if I tried to kill somebody be like I
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- think the guy was six foot seven like
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- let's go through the database we got Ben
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- Kissel David Lee and I'm already stopped
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- there's that tree over there
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- great castle every time you talk about
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- your size there's such sadness in your
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- eyes because you know you're never going
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- to be a killer you know you can't you
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- can't kill and just not average enough
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- that sucks which is why I love the other
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- way he's able to blend in with society
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- and his major goal is fame and we were
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- kind of joking about earlier if he was
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- in the reality TV era he would be Snooki
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- or the situation or Vinny or yeah one of
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- those Desperate Housewives on of New
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- Jersey it weren't able to have a reality
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- show they would probably be a serial
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- killer yeah what yeah cuz it's just that
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- same sort of it's that flaw I think this
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- is the same flaw that exists in
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- politicians is this a mother exists in
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- us we're entertaining why are we doing
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- this uh cue man dude dude I'm doing man
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- I'm good I'm not gonna kill anybody man
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- that's the thing I have a delusion in my
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- mind that I am giving the world
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- something right now it's true to really
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- feel like people should be grateful that
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- I'm speaking to them and why and pay us
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- for it
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- and give us money to do it yeah what is
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- good about it let us entertain you for
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- money we've done nothing to deserve this
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- other than be tormented and dis Batphone
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- update we grew up that that's all we
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- need man the end but this is this
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- breeding ground for serial killers since
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- this type of you feel you don't feel
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- validated with your life bro you want to
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- go out there and put your hate on
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- everybody and you know going back to
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- what do like Dahmer was collecting
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- skulls and you know BTK collecting hair
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- samples he collected his newspaper
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- articles and he was on the front page
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- just countless times in this year figure
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- in a 365 day year he probably was on the
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- front page 50 60 70 times and when
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- you're taunting the police you're just
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- asking for attention and that that's
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- what he was doing and then when they
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- call
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- ham there's a whole story of like in the
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- end when they finally caught him when
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- they tracked him down
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- he was like through series of like
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- parking tickets like is always fuckin is
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- it's always yeah
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- and then he he was like oh you got me
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- what took you so long
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- and he just made it super bombastic and
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- he made up the story about the dog
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- talking to him that was all complete
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- bullshit and now he's also one of all
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- the serial killers we talked about he
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- the only ones still alive they don't
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- know death penalty here yeah he's alive
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- and he's in jail and he's an evangelist
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- he do you found Jesus Christ and he's
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- doing all that I want to write him a
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- letter we will well I want to get him to
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- draw a picture of puppies for us I think
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- it'll be a beautiful and Getty like
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- picture if you could just make a puppy
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- instead of a sunflower be the happiest
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- must remind wouldn't throw up throw up
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- right yes I love it
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- but speaking of chasing like the cops
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- chased him we we went our ways of Forest
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- Hills and this is the documentation of
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- that event I will say this these four
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- and five killings ones we're going to
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- discover we're big in the case you're
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- the ones that deemed Kim the 44 caliber
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- killer because this is when the cops
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- first put it together this right I'll be
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- the same fella he loved that 44 caliber
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- pistol I will say two gigantic gun it's
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- like a it's like a gun from the Old West
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- is that what it is you know a lot about
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- guns I do how big is that gunshot it's a
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- big fucking guts 44 Magnum and what a
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- hole does that put into something you
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- think if you were let's let's say we're
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- looking at a normal sized squash how
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- much damage we're doing to that set
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- squash that squash is gonna be exploded
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- squash time squashed
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- so these people didn't look too hot
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- afterwards they probably look pretty bad
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- were they
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- what sort of wounds did he do did he do
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- head shots head shots yeah well he
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- attended to do all head shots God knows
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- it's not an easy shot
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- that's what they were saying about this
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- the girl Virginia Volga Shan is that
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- when she had her books in her hand when
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- he approached out of the shadows he
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- lifts she lifted the book up to her face
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- and he shot right through the book and
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- killed because he didn't kill people
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- very cool he certainly wasn't going for
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- the grotesque or like you know you know
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- putting people into crucifixes or
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- stuffing them into fantastic sort of
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- small sized dolls and then throwing
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- those dolls on the windshield but he did
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- have a type well his stuff was about
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- building a character legs tightly
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- toughest he said he they tried to build
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- a type into him because that's what
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- happened with my mother was this like my
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- mother living for us all the time right
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- around the place where victims four and
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- five were killed and she would have to
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- be escorted home because they sent out
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- this bulletin after he sent out the
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- letters it was in his first letter he
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- just keeps talking about the beautiful
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- women of Queens about how Queens is the
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- most beautiful women and you know and
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- they should all watch me said except for
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- mr. Braus
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- let's say that my mom was actually
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- really really hot back in the day and
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- she had long brown hair and that's what
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- they said that he was gunning after was
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- long around hair and the end they just
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- found out it was completely random
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- it's like calling a oh I'm the smartest
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- kid the Special Olympics you know what's
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- the take to be attractive in Queens
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- couple of toads she got four toes I
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- guess she's the most attractive girl
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- around worse - the whole time her
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- gestures he doesn't have a symbol stain
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- on it the new thing on the gingers oh no
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- there's one she's hot
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- never mind I thought she was ugly for a
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- second well that's a mustard stain that
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- chick gives it up pretty good Jersey
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- accent okay Queens it's fine it's all
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- exactly the same same strain of awful
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- the monkey that lives in Queens
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- it's really like a down-home hero type
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- this is the Joe Namath of serial killers
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- Broadway that a nickname it is it is now
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- yeah
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- Great White Way Sam Big Apple son Sam
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- got the location or is it more of a
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- Michael Myers type situation where you
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- just walked everyone
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- we might be on a very similar journey
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- let's just say was in unions we're
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- shopping at Mandy's that fantastic store
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- get read the shoe store yeah important
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- Trader Joe's before but maybe he was in
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- a whole food
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- you know that in for
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- a walk through this exact subway station
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- six Avenue and
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- taken is insane
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- hideous entourage like
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- we are we your entourage what the death
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- of his mother is what set him off talk
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- about that who doesn't say cuz he was
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- given up for adoption and when he found
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- out later on because he's a biological
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- mother had an affair with other man
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- while she was married to this did this
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- loveless relationship with her with her
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- the man raised him and he begged her to
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- have an abortion and she said no and
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- then the leader years later basically
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- when he was a genius kid and then
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- started getting in trouble they IQ of
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- this is a gifted it's good right and he
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- started getting in trouble and in a
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- flight she told him that she should have
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- ordered him but how many times does a
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- mother say that to a child oh they're
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- told it to me at least four or five
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- times and she was more pro-life than
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- that you know good knows a small ski my
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- mom would put a little crown on me and
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- I'd sit in a little throne
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- and she bring me a little like candies
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- and candied fruits and then normal
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- candies and then fruit and then just
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- lots and lots and lots of meatloaf and
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- buttered noodles and then would you have
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- for dinner oh then it would be turkey
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- we'd have a turkey lasagna a turkey a
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- meat lasagna interesting and then sue
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- yeah and then clutter doodles
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- the also mean he had a carcass that was
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- all things they busted him
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- they basically set up a sting
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- they set up a sting operation for him
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- and when they believe we found him on
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- parking tickets
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- they were giving him a parking ticket
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- and saw a rifle in his backseat
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- he came out basically of his apartment
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- he came out of his apartment
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- they basically grabbed him and he said
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- his words to them were what took you so
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- long
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- you got me and they found a 44 caliber
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- and a Brownback in his hands and they're
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- like man you're really acting bizarre
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- it's just a parking ticket
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- take it easy enjoy anything that wrong
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- I'm the right man
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- Alan are you just a little traffic
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- offender you're fine no no do you think
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- he's the killer
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- I don't know we better let's shift the
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- logs I don't know man I want to play
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- King Kong on the water play King Kong an
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- arcade machine back back greasy
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- well I guess we'll have to arrest him
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- then people had guilty to it three
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- hundred and sixty five years sentence
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- which God knows he can still get out
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- he'll get out he'll get out of the one
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- ripe young age of 400 he is instant it's
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- like human Manson can put up like they
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- have to do all every year actually they
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- hide and let him out I mean Batman
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- always is more exciting when the Joker
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- and the Riddler get out there is no
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- Batman
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- we are back Batman hat oh are you Batman
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- holy shit I'll be the Batman or New York
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- you're sort of like a Batman hey get rid
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- of that baby changing with see he's a
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- cat man
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- yeah that's good that's good I could be
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- a new Batman for the cat man okay so the
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- more I go over it so his first first
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- Judy in July 29 1976 Jodi Valenti and
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- Donna Laurie Valenti survives the second
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- time it goes out there October 23rd 1976
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- near the Halloween out and he kills he
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- tries to shoot Carl
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- denaro and rosemary Keenan they both
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- survive it wasn't a crack shot no
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- absolutely not
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- you know you work for the you supposed
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- to work
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- he wasn't a train he left they were
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- supposed to be amazing and shooting No
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- now he was just mad the third time she's
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- mad at girls because they didn't want to
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- date him the world would he's a postal
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- worker the third time Donna Demasi and
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- then eighteen-year-old Joanne Lamine Oh
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- Donna lives completely but Joanne gets
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- paralyzed for life so he's getting
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- closer to killing them killed over us
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- where he killed the first one but then
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- he would go to the Miami Heat this is
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- the terrible way to start a season think
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- about this all right how we'll do see
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- during these killers here's like 27 28
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- was a young men - LeBron James there's
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- nervous you're you're filled with hate
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- you're probably you're fat you're sweaty
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- and like you're holding a gigantic done
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- you're trying to fulfill what you
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- believe has become your destiny there's
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- a lot of pressure on you there is it's
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- hard for you to be a cracker the news
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- media is starting to get to you he's
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- reading the page six is all about an
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- absolute I don't want to lose weight you
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- know Andrea pies or get off my back
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- that's true he's not getting past at CBC
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- right all these stuff is a comedy
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- so really we're going to - we're going
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- to his first death in a year his first
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- real kill one about six months because
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- it's January 30th is the one that we're
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- going to Kristen Freund I mean he just
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- finished
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- the world to finally get one
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- you in a long time without killing
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- anybody that's like it's like his penis
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- in where I'm sure his penis is Myrtle
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- first place at all
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- I mean paralyzing somebody for life is
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- like going to going into the third
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- overtime in a game seven and the NBA
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- finals are losing by one it's like
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- you're so close I guess that's true but
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- not you go away a limp
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- and the end I don't think it was about
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- that I think it was about his sort of
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- when he and kept believing this is
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- grander message of fear my favorite
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- choice that he made here was against was
20:02
- with Judy Placido in Sal Lupu they were
20:05
- both shot they both survived but they
20:06
- were leaving a discount so he good taste
20:08
- in music
20:09
- salut salut prepare OOP what kind of
20:13
- name is Lupin
20:15
- it's a Nicaraguan and Willy Wonka that's
20:19
- gonna feel a few it feels very um it's
20:22
- chocolate ringing oh yeah wrong with
20:24
- y'all - were the chocolate ring
20:25
- I'm gonna name it first son Luke lupa
20:27
- it's a good kill theory proves or else
20:30
- he none of mine he's going to the
20:32
- coolest I have a dream of it
20:36
- Henry Thomas excuse me behind one after
20:39
- telling him never telling these adopted
20:41
- no fun everyone now hello everyone until
20:44
- don't be like he's natural birth so are
20:45
- you just kidding are you just gonna like
20:47
- stay super tan or just a continue to eat
20:49
- shellfish at your large or to and just
20:51
- always be red that's good I'm kind of
20:54
- red right now
20:55
- you were ferry red right now alright so
20:59
- we are one stop away from 71st Street
21:02
- forest to
21:04
- means how we feel right now boy I mean
21:07
- I'm excited to get off this train and
21:08
- see just could smell the air man smelly
21:11
- over the Son of Sam you used to smell
21:13
- like done w when I got like gun residue
21:15
- gun smoke correctly headed into very
21:18
- nice area of Queens miss Mina
21:22
- Ellen person Avenue
21:25
- branding on this train
21:28
- and five these people are serial killers
21:30
- going to coins colonel T is actually in
21:32
- statistic like one in five people
21:34
- circles
21:36
- what if five people had one inside
21:38
- surfaces and people well two of us or
21:41
- seven out of ten
21:43
- one in five people in serial killer
21:46
- Queens 1 & 3
21:52
- one in two people have had sex of the
21:55
- corpse
21:57
- you know people trust us Henry and when
21:59
- you throw out a random statistics it's
22:00
- one in three bullets and had sex with a
22:03
- corpse
22:03
- oh it's more than 3,000 that you're
22:05
- right about that well that's a huge
22:06
- difference isn't it I kind of want to
22:09
- read another quick tip under the police
22:11
- what if we just start great pretty thick
22:13
- letters so police that aren't about
22:15
- murders let us feel like like what we
22:18
- did then we get that I made a waffle
22:20
- okay
22:21
- you're either well okay no you have it
22:23
- how about the Son of Sam
22:25
- the son this thing you like write all
22:27
- these letters from the Sun to Sam to the
22:28
- police
22:30
- that's pretty awesome I'll be fine are
22:33
- you to yodel today then we can be
22:34
- prisoners you fucking forget to like
22:38
- scare watch Netflix into queue oh do I
22:41
- give a shit about you love this
22:42
- understand
22:45
- would you write it in your own shit you
22:46
- read it in your own shit so it's
22:48
- interesting
22:49
- well of course you have to write into
22:50
- your own feces I mean everybody knows
22:52
- that kill a dog take its skin right on
22:56
- it your top ten instant you choices set
23:00
- into David lemon and David Letterman see
23:02
- what it says good if he doesn't like
23:03
- that send it to the bulldozer cocks good
23:05
- yeah I love the idea I think this is
23:08
- really going to help us kick Salima Cup
23:10
- with the fun that's right you can't
23:12
- smell me calm without come-come macabre
23:15
- yeah kapre comedy
23:17
- yeah welcome back to the search of the
23:22
- boogeyman episode one Sunnis and victims
23:25
- for five who are you with right here for
23:28
- sale centers that we you are here we are
23:30
- headed right over here Dartmouth Street
23:32
- rhombus realism which is right along
23:36
- this dark mystery
23:37
- all right the swoop don't guess let's go
23:44
- just this stuff Buster Bank relatively
23:47
- here as far as the actual structures of
23:49
- it it's pretty nice developed part of
23:51
- town
23:52
- it's very busy it's super busy
23:55
- it's also
23:57
- you know thirty years later yeah I
24:00
- actually think there's something that
24:02
- the city does I think it's very
24:04
- interesting the city is a very short
24:05
- memory right and city doesn't really
24:08
- look different cities a high turnover
24:09
- rate they like to bury the stuff I think
24:11
- something happened when the murders
24:13
- happened on here because this used to
24:14
- just be mom-and-pop shop this was all
24:18
- even I remember like growing up it's
24:20
- like my mom who spent a lot of time in
24:21
- this area and it's like completely
24:23
- different there's all chain restaurants
24:25
- look at this bridge here like this could
24:29
- be like late at night you could turn
24:31
- into a festival of whores
24:33
- killing you and your family underneath
24:35
- it me it's all sort of like - it's like
24:38
- there's something to me it's very funny
24:40
- about like small town nice areas that
24:42
- are turned a nightmare works by
24:44
- murderers that's why a slasher flicks is
24:47
- so great yeah luckily we have Kiki with
24:52
- us is the perfect definition of some Sam
24:54
- victims just in case he's back here
24:57
- someone of his copycat killers he'll
25:00
- take her leave us he'll see us as sort
25:03
- of his allies and joyous thing this is
25:07
- it
25:10
- it's quite nice yeah completely change
25:13
- everybody smells really good too
25:15
- yeah how do they do that if they can
25:16
- make this part of town smell good why
25:18
- can't they make all what the recipes
25:20
- cook Queen Queen is a river of french
25:24
- fried fat run homes bottom of it all
25:28
- right we got the truth
25:30
- this is Dartmouth Street here and I must
25:32
- say it's rustic it looks very Jack the
25:35
- Ripper ass she's actually completely
25:37
- changed I wonder if this whole thing may
25:39
- be told
25:44
- I mean I will say on things will realize
25:48
- they're literally standing on top of a
25:50
- grape
25:53
- we have overpriced Bud Lights and their
25:56
- overpriced chicken fingers there is a
25:58
- poor girl walking back from what is afar
26:01
- nard University get shot in the face
26:06
- here we go
26:08
- this is dark Mar so she's just walking
26:10
- by to cool better get that physics exam
26:13
- better study pretty hard we're passing
26:15
- to Dartmouth right now she's just
26:17
- thinking about oh I think professor
26:19
- Hampton was pretty attractive today do
26:21
- you think he was looking at me I have no
26:23
- idea
26:23
- oh god who are you well apparently I'm
26:27
- victims uh five like right afterwards he
26:31
- would he came out from behind cars like
26:33
- right here you see a regular parts of
26:35
- cars park right here he came out acid a
26:37
- very high-pitched voice hey curtain yet
26:38
- you call me a word and then he shot them
26:41
- isn't that really creepy that's
26:43
- unbelievably fast that's how that's this
26:45
- look what a cat does to a mouse this is
26:48
- it there this is where I was got a for
26:51
- Darmouth Brandon Oh ladies and gentlemen
26:52
- it looks it's beautiful
26:55
- it's all under construction it's all
26:57
- under construction they're still trying
26:58
- to rebuild and this is where that young
27:01
- Emily it's gorgeous
27:03
- and that's five garment yeah the house
27:06
- right there actually does look a little
27:08
- haunted Oh completely hon just keep
27:10
- walking
27:11
- so we know should we go knock on their
27:12
- door should we knock on some doors yeah
27:15
- free ham your embassy you remember
27:17
- solicit shit I just understand the frizz
27:20
- about the pub game I was talking about
27:22
- this with Kissel about gonna wait for
27:24
- good there's something is really
27:26
- interesting about going like you know
27:30
- you go to see mass death sites you know
27:33
- if you go to Ground Zero or you go to
27:35
- like Gettysburg or something has
27:37
- definitely feeling sort of like gravity
27:39
- tools you show up someplace 2,000 people
27:41
- to die and it's just very interesting
27:43
- just like this one like this is a one
27:45
- woman died here there was like a pivotal
27:47
- point of like one of the most infamous
27:49
- crime stories in the world ever record
27:53
- an honest woman here number five is
27:55
- probably the reason that they caught the
27:57
- Son of Sam to begin with because it was
27:59
- at this point they realized they're
28:01
- dealing with the 44 caliber killer it
28:03
- wasn't smart enough to get two guns you
28:05
- know and this is the way they're really
28:07
- started to put it all together not to
28:09
- mention you could tell if the place was
28:10
- half this nice a killing in this
28:12
- neighborhood must have been fucking
28:13
- earth-shattering
28:14
- you know this would have happened on you
28:16
- know shit Bronx no one who cares what's
28:20
- happening like the first to happen in
28:22
- the Bronx and you can see that it's like
28:23
- people just sort of it this makes more
28:27
- of a statement well it's gonna be almost
28:29
- any neighborhood anywhere in America
28:31
- that's like a really good base which is
28:33
- nice this front yard and for those that
28:36
- don't think that the front front yard is
28:38
- rare I haven't seen a front yard in New
28:40
- York City in three years yeah
28:43
- like yeah my backpack up you look
28:48
- creeped out it is unbelievably scary
28:51
- it's but you know at the same time
28:53
- nobody is out here here no one's out
28:57
- here you see how we could do it because
28:59
- there isn't a soul
29:00
- everybody has jobs everyone's dawei come
29:02
- be Congress women or work for the head
29:05
- of Sanitation tomorrow they don't have
29:06
- time to be out and it's only 11 o'clock
29:10
- at night it's dead
29:12
- this is Mark no talking not even a bird
29:17
- nothing not a car stop there's one
29:20
- driver there's a young girl it's
29:22
- straight so and you can see the
29:24
- isolation we were out here you can just
29:27
- see how it's extreme pause we're just
29:29
- walking alone and if I'm ignore us or
29:33
- isolated than a potato in the middle of
29:35
- Iceland I mean not another one around
29:37
- have you no potatoes in Iceland no it's
29:40
- cold what I thought potatoes did well in
29:43
- bad weather
29:43
- well I think you were fucking idiot
29:46
- there's potatoes that's what you said
29:48
- when you and you're scared you're
29:50
- abusive iodide I'm terrified I'm sorry
29:52
- Henry you're not an idiot potatoes do
29:54
- grow in Iceland I I didn't know we were
29:57
- gonna be stalking about root fruits
30:02
- it's not a fruit a root is a fruit not
30:05
- potatoes not a special pretend vegetable
30:08
- no no what yeah she's not dead is she
30:23
- she just texted me back so she's not not
30:26
- that you asked her if she was dead yes
30:28
- you asked her she was dead did not
30:30
- specifically ask her you could you ask
30:33
- her ask her if she's dead does have long
30:36
- brown hair we need to know for sure cuz
30:39
- you're with us you're not safe she's not
30:42
- safe either Oh take some footage with
30:44
- your camera if you want to get a real
30:46
- yeah let's keep moving along east gives
30:48
- out more chemo I mean it's just so
30:50
- bizarre because I'm sort of getting
30:51
- feelings of like that where Elm Street
30:54
- oh yeah you definitely my own master
30:56
- chemistry it has the you know that the
30:58
- trees make an arch in the you know
31:01
- middle just gorgeous
31:05
- no this is a very upscale neighborhood
31:07
- this is what is going to happen I mean
31:08
- like she was just coming home from she
31:10
- was coming home from school you know
31:12
- she's coming home to her she'll live
31:13
- with her parents like out here and then
31:16
- you know when he brought he brought his
31:19
- misery here and he's such a coward you
31:22
- know like you think you stood far away
31:24
- any shot he'd look like you did surprise
31:26
- shooting he didn't even do like he knows
31:29
- he could have followed her though he
31:31
- could have chosen her block away from
31:37
- full Dartmouth so this is probably
31:40
- around the area at that time
31:41
- he ran away miss Froy was shot his
31:43
- victims before yeah it was only like 5
31:48
- or 6 bucks Garnica yeah these things on
31:50
- me oh my god Vinny tied with Jack for
31:53
- the nature of hearing I can't click off
31:54
- of you take off it's gonna hit me yeah
31:57
- Jesus Christ here this thing just is
32:01
- something around here wow this is
32:03
- probably where she died this this is a
32:05
- this is a spruce made from her blood it
32:08
- grew out of the ground where she
32:09
- collapsed it's just it storms there's no
32:12
- other thorny bush around except for that
32:13
- one and the fireflies yeah are beautiful
32:16
- yeah Souls Souls Souls a merciful
32:22
- results Catholics have you know
32:25
- Christians have weird dicks plantings
32:26
- are a lot different
32:30
- the only if we should look we should try
32:32
- to stop when the password binds and talk
32:35
- to them or quick as if they know I mean
32:37
- they must know Botox I'd love to do that
32:38
- we should just stop that guy
32:41
- I think maybe let's have let's ask these
32:43
- people about it ask hey guys
32:46
- excuse me we're doing a show about the
32:48
- Son of Sam do you guys remember anything
32:51
- about that back in the seventies at all
32:53
- oh nothing
32:57
- Sam yeah because it's for Dartmouth
33:00
- right there right they've did a big
33:02
- documentary here it was shooting no
33:04
- filming I think it was last year as well
33:07
- I remember none of the girls wanted to
33:10
- have long hair
33:14
- and girls were like putting their hair
33:16
- up in ponytails my mom was the same
33:18
- exact way Jenny have like five blocks
33:20
- from here and she's a get exported home
33:22
- every single time she came up from the
33:23
- train left you guys would walk her and
33:25
- so the what was the overall like mood
33:27
- cuz what is it with it this nice back in
33:29
- like 70s I didn't live here I lived in
33:31
- Kew Gardens okay which is right on the
33:34
- other side but it was all around
33:35
- everybody everybody knew we do we did we
33:39
- do a lot of hanging out on the stoop and
33:42
- not going far from home and all the
33:44
- girls had their hair in ponytails or
33:46
- anything to make it look like it wasn't
33:48
- long hair that's so fast you know like
33:50
- one person we had girl
33:51
- O'Day I was super into them all right
33:53
- yes she got shot right over here I think
33:56
- it was that first girl that survived I
33:58
- think yeah yeah she was right right
34:00
- around here can you think of another
34:01
- time where somebody that's like that
34:03
- much of a chilling effect on it like an
34:05
- entire population of like 9 million
34:07
- people's like in there besides yeah when
34:09
- the towers towers came down yeah that's
34:12
- amazing
34:13
- thank you thank you so much happening
34:15
- sure take care
34:17
- holy Lord Igor D what a journey that was
34:20
- and what was most amazing to me was the
34:21
- interview that we were able to do we
34:23
- stop this couple on the street and I
34:25
- felt so bad the the the food really good
34:27
- at harnessing that - because someone of
34:29
- your size approaching just a hey hey got
34:31
- some questions for you hey let me talk
34:33
- to you
34:33
- Dylan a son Sam you know that peaceful
34:36
- man I'm looking for my dad you ever seen
34:39
- him it's the Son of Sam we stop there's
34:42
- a fantastic lady Craig I'm the grandson
34:44
- Sam hello I'm the great I don't kill
34:47
- people but I say mean things to him so
34:50
- we stopped this couple into it's a guy
34:52
- he looks to be in his sixties or
34:53
- seventies he's fat and bald so it's hard
34:55
- to tell you know I that's they fat bald
34:58
- men age like black women oh yeah I don't
35:00
- know if you're 1652 more and more like a
35:03
- fucking cantaloupe and I just want you I
35:05
- just need to be in a khaki open eat the
35:07
- meat inside your fucking husk that's
35:10
- right
35:10
- so we got this we stopped a couple and
35:12
- the gal there she was nice enough and I
35:13
- think they were together she was in her
35:15
- late for you so he was doing fantastic
35:16
- and it makes sense because he has to be
35:18
- wealthiest held because the Forest Hills
35:20
- area I'm sure that you heard it on the
35:21
- on the tape I mean that's mansion it's
35:22
- absolutely gorgeous head there they are
35:24
- their own City Patrol I mean it's what a
35:26
- creepy place say the silence and the
35:28
- City Patrol did almost pick me and Kiki
35:31
- up for trying to break into for
35:33
- Dartmouth that's right and I forget I
35:34
- want to thank Kiki you Prell for coming
35:36
- along and being our gal on the street
35:38
- there with us and people art Son of Sam
35:40
- bait yes our son Sam bait and she'll be
35:42
- will be our correspondents from here on
35:44
- out she's super thrilled we're super
35:45
- thrilled to have her on board so yeah
35:48
- and I thought the the the the only
35:50
- equate the only thing that the woman
35:52
- could equate the Son of Sam to as far as
35:55
- the chill of the city was 9/11 yeah
35:57
- which I thought was an amazing just she
36:00
- was doing exactly what he set out to
36:03
- exactly what he wanted to do he was
36:05
- little Lady gaga of serial killers and
36:07
- he was born that way he was born that
36:09
- way you know I'm not gonna be one of
36:11
- these politicians out there oh maybe
36:12
- it's a choice to be your serial killer
36:14
- like no you're born with a Mis wire in
36:17
- your head that's what I'm saying like if
36:18
- you just heard that song or you know out
36:21
- here walk by all right al
36:26
- hi he would just learn that all you do
36:29
- was dance you know build leather goods
36:32
- that's right well the the look in that
36:34
- woman's eye like that was such a sincere
36:37
- look of fear yeah my absolute fear
36:39
- whenever she was talking to pops right
36:41
- back in yeah it does and it's been 40
36:43
- years 40 years and still there's only
36:45
- been two events since the same as Son of
36:47
- Sam in New York City and one was a man
36:49
- who killed eight people in another event
36:50
- killed 3,000 and started two wars I mean
36:53
- that's that is an astounding like I just
36:57
- can't imagine like and your mother was
36:59
- saying right like your mother so after
37:00
- this like every single morning you wake
37:02
- up you put your hair up why because
37:04
- there's a crazy serial killer about
37:05
- who's there trying to kill girls that
37:07
- look just like you right and you get off
37:10
- the subway I better make sure that I
37:12
- arranged my appointment with Tom to pick
37:14
- me up here because otherwise I'm gonna
37:16
- be murdered by a random guy with a 44
37:18
- caliber you know kind of changes it
37:19
- imagined changed the entire face the
37:22
- neighborhood and that's what she was
37:23
- talking about to with like their I mean
37:25
- we had a scare when I was growing up of
37:27
- a kid who wouldn't bid they were yeah
37:30
- they were like how is this fat boy
37:32
- throwing up why is he throwing up and
37:34
- still so fat just like oh it's cause I
37:38
- got to be bid say to me and that's what
37:40
- I said and they believed me
37:41
- um but ravioli being excited yeah I
37:44
- don't know what it is yo shit yet can
37:46
- you get free different we're happy Yoli
37:48
- so but we had a child snatcher in our
37:51
- neighborhood and that was kind of the
37:53
- automatic response was is that the whole
37:55
- neighborhood just comes out where it's
37:57
- like everyone was on the street at all
37:59
- nights and like watching over each other
38:01
- and it's kind of where parts of New York
38:03
- again so interesting where we're a
38:07
- metropolis and again there's millions of
38:09
- millions of people you can go to
38:10
- anonymous but then parts of the city can
38:12
- just turn into a small town yeah you're
38:14
- part of the said you could just turn
38:15
- into the safety cloak of a small town
38:17
- and same thing we're talking about after
38:19 9/11 what happened in the city where 38:21
- it's just like it creates a sort of
38:22
- surge of hope then because people are
38:25
- looking out for each other and that's
38:28
- what's wonderful about the city but also
38:31
- allows it sort of insidious fucked up
38:34
- dark shadowy side that allows ocean to
38:36
- fester son
38:37
- Sam really just brought the community
38:39
- together yeah he was like like a
38:41
- fantastic carnival coming through town
38:43
- more barbering yeah everyone just came
38:45
- out was just like thank you Son of Sam
38:47
- we're having a great time I've never
38:49
- felt this close to my guys they're gonna
38:51
- fucking bounce e house good everybody
38:55
- bouncing the fucking bouncy house gonna
38:57
- say I'm ain't gonna go Murr got us to
38:59
- gauge OE yeah Joey yeah this is not like
39:03
- a Joey I look a god about your old coke
39:06
- bottles the film was sand difficult it
39:09
- said and I pull the googly eyes at the
39:11
- outside of took a fucking person it's
39:15
- the sand person like that movie star
39:17
- wars Son of Sam has healed Queens again
39:20
- he did he always has but so they
39:22
- eventually got him after what was it
39:24
- eight murders uh let's see here
39:27
- it was it was eight total and yep eight
39:30
- old last one was done in South Brooklyn
39:32
- around Bensonhurst yeah you obviously
39:34
- did to sort of throw off the trail of
39:36
- everything else you yeah yeah yeah I'm
39:37
- looking at a map right now and you know
39:40
- what's funny is that uh some of the
39:42
- murders I'd say at least there's two of
39:44
- them that are just within a few blocks
39:46
- of each other that was in fondles that's
39:48
- where we were
39:49
- oh no uh victims one in six in the Bronx
39:52
- yeah we're real close to each other uh
39:54
- and then the other three in Queens were
39:56
- you know pretty far apart of course the
39:58
- one down in Bensonhurst was very last
40:00
- everybody uh but I find that I found
40:02
- that interesting though I think I I
40:03
- don't it kind of lends credence alike do
40:06
- we know how he chose like his area I
40:09
- think that he was very random he might
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- have just been in Bensonhurst that day I
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- just like I go to bed I'm gonna kill
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- somebody like the way that you just had
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- a stressful day working like a Coors
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- Light with the closest bar I'm pretty
40:20
- sure it was a it was a mixture of there
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- there was completely random shit and
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- there was line eat yeah he coming of
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- course you know the irony of getting all
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- the press that you ever wanted was me
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- that everyone is on the lookout you know
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- yeah well that was the other thing is
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- that uh during that summer there was a
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- gigantic heat wave yeah New York City
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- like so again everyone was just on the
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- street the majority in New York doesn't
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- have central air right several inches
40:44
- out and that also increases crime to be
40:48
- so fuckin I want to stab both of you
40:51
- right now
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- that's how hot this like coffee so yeah
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- fuckin hole right now I want to cut off
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- your skin and wear like a suit and kill
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- myself
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- yeah be like why Muslims guess where
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- we're burkas it's surprisingly enough
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- makes you war or colder is that it snow
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- yeah of course that's why they wear it
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- I'm wearing shorts I know but if you
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- were in a burka you would be more
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- comfortable I'm covered in hair though
41:12
- well you yeah I'm not saying you're
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- exactly like an Arab woman you're like
41:15
- less hairy but I want to that on they
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- wear hats and read that Batman hats oh
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- no no no they don't believe in fucking
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- Batman because they don't like to have
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- images of their gods Batman's the only
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- thing I worship absolutely thing is
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- gonna save us in the end
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- and Ray Henry come help me I'm Batman
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- God yeah Henry go into the store and get
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- my robot awesome I can't go anywhere
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- dressed like this man I'm gonna do
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- anything for you Bob where's Batman you
41:46
- my new boss dag you and Ray is that how
41:49
- it's gonna happen yeah Batman fell in
41:52
- hard time and recession thank God you
41:54
- know thank God I need fucking some but
41:57
- it's not good to pick me up out of this
41:58
- bullshit
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- cuz I'm gonna live to 87 so I got to do
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- something I got 90 I don't know what
42:03
- those three years are gonna be like
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- without you mr. Zebrowski there's gonna
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- be you playing Yahtzee by yourself
42:07
- trying to jerk off your dead penis I
42:10
- just can't wait to finally win it every
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- time I play yatzee yatzee doesn't even
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- matter I win it all
42:15
- but yeah so that's pretty much where
42:17
- we're at with Son of Sam it was an
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- amazing journey and we were thrilled to
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- go on it I just want to go deeper into
42:23
- the city this and we're going to we're
42:24
- going to continue our search for the New
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- York boogie man over the next couple of
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- episodes we really want to find
42:29
- something regal they'll be completely
42:31
- honest want to find something that he's
42:33
- genuinely fucking frightening if you
42:35
- have any advice please leave a comment
42:37
- on the cave comedy radio site cave
42:39
- comedy radio calm send us an email
42:41
- actually at a CCR podcast network at
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- gmail.com
42:44
- here we go CCR pikas networking.com CCR
42:47
- podcast network at gmail.com wow that's
42:50
- a lot of that's a lot of email a lot of
42:52
- letters I don't know if our fans
42:54
- remember to figure it out just joking
42:55
- you're so smart
42:58
- but yeah we're getting deep we're gonna
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- get deep and frighten ourselves we're
43:01
- gonna frighten you that's right we got
43:03
- Kiki she's going out this week in New
43:05
- Orleans she's gonna try to interview a
43:07
- voodoo priest and I imagine she's gonna
43:08
- get a lot out of him he's gonna be area
43:10
- rugs Camila are looking buggy buggy look
43:12
- Allah Allah you see me bones
43:14
- Oh I throw the bones it means you're
43:17
- gonna get sick and of course that's just
43:19
- a homeless fella right outside of Penn
43:20
- Station I cross the bones every once in
43:22
- a while yeah who doesn't toss bones I
43:24
- toss bones but it always just comes out
43:26
- as bones yeah look at that him ditches
43:29
- bones yeah huh well it's fun it must be
43:32
- nice to actually feel a bone he's a
43:33
- little chubby ladies and gentlemen how
43:35
- are ya oh my god I have nothing ladies
43:39
- and gentleman you have a whole bunch of
43:40
- stuff and go out and do it because this
43:42
- episode of last podcast on the left is
43:44
- over and I think we're gonna be trying
43:45
- to go to Elbert fish's house next time
43:46
- there'll be a lot of fun will your movie
43:48
- to a whole whole series we do a lot of
43:49
- creepy shit I love it and I love you
43:51
- Marcus I love you beh love you Henry
43:53
- I love you Ben all right this I'm glad
43:55
- you guys survived the massive car
43:56
- accident you guys are happy you don't
43:58
- love Marcus that's the best part about
43:59
- this is that you think that God has
44:01
- forgotten about us if he exists but two
44:04
- of you guys probably should be dead we
44:06
- talked about it in the top hat - yeah we
44:08
- probably should be it was very possible
44:09
- you know we should definitely be dead
44:11
- Son of Sam she just figured there's
44:12
- nothing up there is there and the only
44:14
- random chance totally red and we could
44:15
- have just been dead like this you'd be
44:17
- up here you know doing this pod kids by
44:19
- yourself but none of the cords be
44:20
- plugged in oh no I heard shouting at the
44:23
- bathroom somebody's in there somebody
44:26
- are you in there you do podcasts we're
44:29
- doing it right now don't get out of
44:30
- there hey Marcus and Ben died in a car
44:32
- accident Oh dirty transfer over the Son
44:34
- of Sam files before he died
44:35
- do we still have those I would never
44:38
- fucking do that I would never do thank
44:40
- you rate all right this is the last box
44:43
- on the left we'll talk to you next week
44:45
- hey let's come up with the catchphrase
44:46
- right now uh-huh look it's in town
44:49
- bucket to town uh-huh kids of town I
44:52
- don't know I put a buckets of cow and
44:53
- named buckets of town congratulations
44:56
- Jesus Christ then how about congratulate
44:59
- that's your all right well I'll see you
45:01
- next week we're gonna tie I'm looking
45:02
- forward to it I'm gonna stick with that
45:03
- one cuz my graduation is good megusta uh
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- yeah gusta megusta congratulations
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- ah mines me gusta megusta
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- congratulations is mine and I have yeah
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- okay I have made goo so you can have
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- congratulations
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- I get megusta mo gusta I'm looking
45:22
- forward to it congratulations that
45:24
- sounds good
45:25
- is it good I like a trilayer motto which
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- one more what one more
45:33
- megusta congratulation less you have it
45:37
- what I'm looking forward to it it's all
45:39
- over I'm looking forward to that's good
45:42
- congratulations Jesus when goosed
45:44
- already it'll never end I don't know if
45:46
- I used to means what is but gusta it
45:49
- megusta means I like it it does yeah
45:52
- congratulations means congratulations
45:55
- for doing well
45:56
- yeah I'm Agusta it I might like it I'm
46:01
- all I'm Agusta it oh it doesn't matter
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- today gusta lations me alright McGoo
46:07
- still Asians ladies and gentlemen Magoo
46:09
- still Asians it is good night go do
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- something terrible